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Post by John "Badoer" King on Aug 26, 2014 17:43:26 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong Brad - Rosberg acted like a dick for that stage of the race but Hamilton is no saint either and could have given him room. We all have the same choice when someone is alongside us - do we turn in normally and risk contact or do we give the person room. Hamilton chose the former because he believed that Rosberg would back out of it as he's done before. What I really don't like is Hamilton crying to the press after the private debrief and saying something that clearly put a spin on something Rosberg said - of all the things that happened, I think that's the most unacceptable.
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Post by Daniel B Johnson on Aug 26, 2014 20:57:50 GMT -5
Here's the thing about Roseberg and this would apply to Lewis if he finds himself in the lead. Basically if you are in the lead of the points there is no incentive for you to NOT bully your way past. Roseberg gave up the probably win by sticking his nose in there, but what did he lose? Nothing, in fact he gained because Lewis wasn't in the running for points. You're a coward by driving that way because anyone else ahead of Roseberg like that and he backs out and sets them up for another move. I think Roseberg isn't sure he can pass Hamilton, go back to Bahrain for that, and then look at Canada to see how he blew the last chicane to pull out a little bigger lead. Roseberg is driving scared. Hamilton is the faster driver but Roseberg has luck and consistency on his side.
Don't get me wrong Lewis can be a whinny twat but think back to the other times you've had one teammate passing another, there is no good reason to take that aggressive a move unless you don't mind him or both of you wrecking out.
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Post by Travis "Zombie" Mihm on Aug 27, 2014 10:34:53 GMT -5
I don't like either of them. Go Alexander Rossi and USF1 2016!
-Travis
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Post by Braith Morrow on Aug 28, 2014 2:35:17 GMT -5
A few observations,
In 2007 when Hamilton was teamed with Alonso and they had their rift, Hamilton came out in the media and said they went on vacation together and everything was fine. Alonso of course said it was a lie and he'd not been on vacation with him. Today we hear that Rosberg has told him he deliberately hit him...... yeah, sure.
As for his driving and the incident, In the pics that John posted, look carefully at pic one and 3. Hamilton's car relative to the curve is in the same part of the corner as the white car in 3, yet his proximity to the Curb is not the same. He's way off line trying to push Rosberg out. As such Whilst Rosberg may have been overly ambitious to try a look around the outside, Hamilton has contributed towards the incident and as such the stewards decision not to take any action is justified, note that they didn't even want to look at it closer under an investigation, quite unusual unless they were confident of their view. As such it is no more than a racing incident.
To me Lewis Hamilton has always lacked the mental strength to focus on what he can control and to block out what he can't control. He's like a kid at a playground who isn't getting his way. 2007 he only needed a few points to win the championship and managed to allow Raikkonen to take it off him, almost the same with Massa in 2008. This year, he's given the mental edge over to Rosberg as early on as Canada. He couldn't manage to drive around the issues that the rear brakes caused, In Germany he blammed the stewards for not deploying a saftey car for the Sauber saying they'd fixed the race, The body language at Budapest when the car caught fire in qualifying was to drop his head and almost cry. At spa it was a case of oh look what he did to me, yes you got a puncture, but the real damage was done by the way he drove the car back to the pits, crabbing all over the road and letting the tyre carcass rip into the floor, later he said it was pointless and wanted to retire - its all negative.
Contrast all of that with the manner in which Rosberg handles issues, 2nd at Canada with a rear brake issue, British GP he retires and comments that until then he was the quickest car (i.e. choosing to take positives) and at spa works his way back to 2nd.
To me this was bound to happen sooner or later, but the true sign of a champion is in how you handle the setbacks and what you are able to turn them into. Webber v Vettel, its all the same.
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Post by John "Badoer" King on Aug 28, 2014 19:52:27 GMT -5
I've changed the name of this thread to something more generic.
I'm also in the process of putting on the drive the most exciting motorsport disciplines you'll ever see - Speedway and Rallycross. All the 2014 Speedway GPs going up now, the 2014 World Rallycross events later today
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 3:42:58 GMT -5
The link would help me get up to date with racing on 4 wheels. Haven't watched a race in years after being a staunch follower till late 90s.
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