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Post by Daniel B Johnson on Aug 10, 2014 13:02:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 17:14:53 GMT -5
No matter how much of a dick Tony can be, there's no need to go full retard, exit your vehicle and start trying to flag down passing cars in the middle of the race.........REALLY?!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 17:17:17 GMT -5
Tragic. I watched the uncut video and the truth hurts. Ward acted in an irresponsible manner and got himself killed. The video isn't exactly clear, but in slow motion, you can see the car in front of Stewrat swerve to miss Ward who was walking down the track into the path of RACE CARS. I don't think Stewrat even saw Ward until the last second and gunned his car to swerve away; Yes, swerve AWAY. Watch and listen and you will notice the same thing. At the moment Ward is about at the front end of Stewart's car, Stewrat guns the motor and the car fishtails to the left, away from Ward. Very unfortunate, but I am not gonna jump on the "lynch Stewrat" bandwagon or blame Ward until there is more evidence beyond a shaking, unfocused video available. Just an observation from said video is all I have to go on.
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Post by Travis "Zombie" Mihm on Aug 10, 2014 22:19:39 GMT -5
+1 on that. I hate Tony Stewart. I think he's an arrogant whiney little bitch and I hope I bump into him in hell so I can tell him myself.
That being said, the other driver took his life into his own hands when he got out of his full-cage race car and started walking towards traffic. You could see the first guy ALMOST hit him and the guy had to jump out of the way. Then he jumped RIGHT back to where he was. I'm no rocket scientist or regular in a winged sprint, but IIRC you can't just whip that car 6 feet to the left like a passenger car at low speed. He's got direct drive, a little steering wheel, a manual rack and the car isn't set up for autocross to say the least. I'm going to one-up the bias and say that anybody who hears Tony hit the gas and say "he meant to do it" clearly doesn't understand how those cars work. If he hit the gas, that means he wanted to turn left. The car doesn't just go straight when you get on the throttle. I feel bad for everybody involved, the fans that had to watch, etc. But there's a reason why most big hits in NASCAR or even road racing usually involve a few marshalls making sure the guy not in his race car full of safety equipment is actually safe. As stupid as Tony is, he had no reason to hit the guy, and I can't imagine a world where even TONY would do something that malicious.
Pulling off track, getting his fat ass out of the car, and throwing down; yes. Hitting somebody purposefully when nothing bad happened to Tony's race, Tony's car, etc? No.
And on another note, I think it's really REALLY stupid that any organization EVER lets anybody out of their vehicle before safety personel are on hand unless there is more threat to the driver to stay in the car than if he were to get out. I'm way more pissed that it's okay at most dirt tracks to do that. Fun for the crowd or what not. Until this happens.
-Travis
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Post by Braith Morrow on Aug 11, 2014 5:40:42 GMT -5
Ugh..... I saw it and it made me sick!
The little I know about these types of cars is that you need a big application of power to move a large mass suddenly, so if the kid stepped in or wasn't seen until the last second hitting the brakes wouldn't work and turning isn't going to do too much either.
I wonder just what sort of changes are going to result from all this.
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Post by Daniel B Johnson on Aug 11, 2014 10:11:52 GMT -5
I'm guessing an automatic suspension for any driver that exits a vehicle that isn't on fire without the safety crew for all major sanctioning bodies. Nascar really had a hand in this, how many times have we seen a driver throw his helmet or point at another car going by? I think it's jacked up to think that Tony Stewart did anything criminal here. Unless you want to start charging every driver who hits a dear for a hunting licence.
Everyone who's ever strapped into one of these beasts at any level knows you're at risk, and there is a brotherhood mentality. Despite animosity you have to have complete trust in the fact that the drive next to you won't kill you.
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Post by John "Badoer" King on Aug 11, 2014 22:59:04 GMT -5
+1 on that. I hate Tony Stewart. I think he's an arrogant whiney little bitch and I hope I bump into him in hell so I can tell him myself. That being said, the other driver took his life into his own hands when he got out of his full-cage race car and started walking towards traffic. You could see the first guy ALMOST hit him and the guy had to jump out of the way. Then he jumped RIGHT back to where he was. I'm no rocket scientist or regular in a winged sprint, but IIRC you can't just whip that car 6 feet to the left like a passenger car at low speed. He's got direct drive, a little steering wheel, a manual rack and the car isn't set up for autocross to say the least. I'm going to one-up the bias and say that anybody who hears Tony hit the gas and say "he meant to do it" clearly doesn't understand how those cars work. If he hit the gas, that means he wanted to turn left. The car doesn't just go straight when you get on the throttle. I feel bad for everybody involved, the fans that had to watch, etc. But there's a reason why most big hits in NASCAR or even road racing usually involve a few marshalls making sure the guy not in his race car full of safety equipment is actually safe. As stupid as Tony is, he had no reason to hit the guy, and I can't imagine a world where even TONY would do something that malicious. Pulling off track, getting his fat ass out of the car, and throwing down; yes. Hitting somebody purposefully when nothing bad happened to Tony's race, Tony's car, etc? No. And on another note, I think it's really REALLY stupid that any organization EVER lets anybody out of their vehicle before safety personel are on hand unless there is more threat to the driver to stay in the car than if he were to get out. I'm way more pissed that it's okay at most dirt tracks to do that. Fun for the crowd or what not. Until this happens. -Travis He is the kind of dick though that would gun the engine to scare the guy, assuming he'd be able to jump out of the way. I just wonder...
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Post by Mark "WiFI" Dyall on Aug 11, 2014 23:56:54 GMT -5
If his intent was to scare the guy then why didn't the front wheels at least move a little. To me he went straight at him and after he gets hit you do hear the engine revs pick up.
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Post by Travis "Zombie" Mihm on Aug 12, 2014 0:53:22 GMT -5
They didn't even touch. That car was one of god-knows how many black cars out there, Tony didn't know the driver, Tony wasn't racing the guy hard or getting frustrated trying to pass by all accounts. That was his first attempt passing, he had position, made the typical dirt-track slide job to seal the deal. Ward tried to stick it on the outside where there wasn't any room, and ended up putting the car into the wall without any contact made. That was on the bad-side of the car as far as vision goes, so I doubt Tony even knew the guy wrecked.
This also isn't NASCAR we're talking about. Tony takes NASCAR waaaaayyyyyy differently than he takes dirt-track racing. Dirt track is his hobby. My brother and a few other friends and family have met him at Eldora on various occasions and he's always pretty relaxed and happy. I still think he's a cock when it comes to NASCAR and he's definitely a self-entitled bastard. But, in this case... I don't see how there would be any way for even an ass like Tony to be upset enough to do something as simple as "scare" the guy.
-Travis
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Post by Jake Fox on Aug 13, 2014 1:17:59 GMT -5
I agree with most people here. Ward was a tool for getting out in the first place. Save that anger for after the race in the pits.
Still sad none the less.
Don't hate me but Tony Stewart is one of my favorite drivers. I guess I'm the only one?
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Post by Daniel B Johnson on Aug 13, 2014 22:10:14 GMT -5
I agree with most people here. Ward was a tool for getting out in the first place. Save that anger for after the race in the pits. Still sad none the less. Don't hate me but Tony Stewart is one of my favorite drivers. I guess I'm the only one? Yup you're the only one, I've hated me some Tony Stewart since his IRL days.
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Post by Jake Fox on Aug 13, 2014 22:27:35 GMT -5
I agree with most people here. Ward was a tool for getting out in the first place. Save that anger for after the race in the pits. Still sad none the less. Don't hate me but Tony Stewart is one of my favorite drivers. I guess I'm the only one? Yup you're the only one, I've hated me some Tony Stewart since his IRL days. Cheers Daniel
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